Former President Jimmy Carter, speaking at the Baptist World Alliance conference in Birmingham, England yesterday, said that the detention of terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba was an "embarrasment," and
to attack the United States and US-allied nations.
Jimmy, don't pretend to speak about the "will of the American people." A significant number of Americans
support the war on terror, your bitch-and-moan fest notwithstanding.
You want to speak for those who don't, that's your business. But don't presume to speak for me.
Briefly President, he was fired at the first opportunity.
Posted by: Lee at July 31, 2005 08:01 AM (563PP)
Honestly...Whay did this man win a Nobel Peace Prize when he "hates" so much.
Posted by: Sgt Fluffy at July 31, 2005 03:53 PM (dxfpU)
Yasser Arafat also has a Nobel Peace Prize. Matched set there.
Posted by: Lee at July 31, 2005 04:51 PM (eL5+G)
Oh, why can't he just shut up?!
Let's follow Dana Bash's suggestion and turn the Kennedy compound at Hyannisport into our new detention facility for Islamofascists.
Ted won't mind. He's all for the Kelo
decision, isn't he?
Posted by: Toby Petzold at July 31, 2005 05:54 PM (vNpQ+)
The American people passed judgement on Jimmy Carter many years ago, he has yet to acknowledge the results and shut up. Hey Jimmy, if you care so much for this country, why don't you stand up for it instead of trying to undermine it at every opportunity.
Posted by: Dale Buckmaster at August 01, 2005 06:47 AM (PefRH)
I think he's broken into the stale Billy Beer again...senile old peanut farmer.
Posted by: BobG at August 01, 2005 11:18 AM (+Y0gP)
When Jimmie Carter turned his back on the Shaw of Iran, he demonstrated to all other Arab nations that the US could not be trusted in dealing with Arabs. After all, if you turn your back on a most trusted friend and ally, what will you do to those that arenÂ’t considered a close ally? The Shaw was AmericaÂ’s most trusted ally and friend in the Middle East. Although the Shaw might not have been liked by other Arab nations because of his relationship with the US, he still was an Arab, an Muslim, and the leader of an Arab nation.
Jimmy Carter is the reason why the United States has a hard time getting Arabs to trust us.
Posted by: Bob at August 01, 2005 12:16 PM (KgYbb)
I think Carter's a great man. As old as he is, he still helps build housing for the poor. What other ex-president does?
He's right to be ashamed of Gitmo. What is America doing, running a concentration camp? We're supposed to be on moral high ground before we preach democracy to the rest of the world. As Americans, we should ALL be ashamed of Guantanamo.
Posted by: del at August 01, 2005 03:44 PM (JpBHP)
Dear MHKING, So you think torturing people who haven't even had the benefit of a trial is something for Americans to be proud of?
This country is great because we don't win by creating a level playing field with the likes of Osama or Saddam or the Taliban. We don't use their methods. It's Un-American.
The harder fight is to win without compromising our deeply held American values.
That's what Former President Carter espouses.
And by the way, anyone who has earned the highest office in this nation deserves respect for that service.
Let me teach you the manners here that your mother apparently forgot. He is entitled to be referred to as our Former President. He wasn't fired. His term ended and he wasn't re-elected, also the will of the people. It's part of the democratic process. There is no shame in losing an election. Certainly not after you've been the leader of the free world for four years, which is more than I can say for you, so don't knock it. I think I can safely assume that you will never win a Nobel Peace Prize either, but I wish you luck in your future.
By the way, he didn't say anything about the war on terror. He's referring to the abuses at Guantanamo Bay, where the Geneva Convention, a clear statement of the will of the American people as to how we want our armed forces to behave in wartime and how we expect our own to be treated, has been suspended, and is not being followed. Individuals are being horrifically mistreated who have not even been legitimately identified as enemies of our country.
Unless we can show by example that our high standards are possible, how can we expect others to follow them? Every time these cases of abuses are brought to light it endangers the safety and lives of American service men and women. If we don't set and hold the standard how can we criticize others actions? That is hypocrisy.
It is a disgrace.
I resent it because it tarnishes the reputation of our military. My Grandfather fought in the Pacific Theatre in WWII and they took many prisoners. Although our American POW's sometimes suffered horribly, we did not mistreat or torture japanese soldiers as POW's. Certainly not as a POLICY. That's one of the ways we knew our way of life was superior and worth the fighting for. There's no tarnish on my Grandfather's Medal of Honor. I resent the actions of those who would tear down the reputation that he and those Americans like him built. Americans have traditionally expected that high standard to be maintained by our soldiers in other conflicts because it represents who we are as a people better than the actions of those who get their jollies peeing on the Koran and torturing people. For your information these are called "war crimes", where people take advantage of the fact that we are at war to express their sick need to harm others. A proud lot there. That's who you identify with?
Well, I think I can safely say, unlike you, most Americans don't identify with them.
We are not torturers. We respect human rights.
Anything less is sinking into barbarism.
Are we fighting barbarians so that we can become like them? I think not.
Posted by: stargazer at September 18, 2005 11:48 AM (M/1Qv)
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